| Archive for October 1998
I'm looking for the following controller messages for the SW60XG.
Midi controller or nrpn's for:
Modulation speed
Modulation freq.
Modulation delay.
Decay (envelope)
If you can help me you will get an cool looking phatboy studioware panel
for
-AWE
-XG (that's why I needed the info)
-Free assignalble
--
With kind regards / Met vriendelijke groet
John Schaap
Hi guys!
Are there any other free Cubase VST plugins (DirectX, VST) except the Chopper
and Northpole?
Thanks,
Daniel
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Daniel Haenle
Digital Media Solutions Center
IBM
Germany
07031/16-4432
[email protected]
ne1??
> I'm looking for the following controller messages for the SW60XG.
>
> Midi controller or nrpn's for:
>
> Modulation speed
> Modulation freq.
> Modulation delay.
> Decay (envelope)
>
> If you can help me you will get an cool looking phatboy studioware panel
> for
> -AWE
> -XG (that's why I needed the info)
> -Free assignalble
>
> --
> With kind regards / Met vriendelijke groet
> John Schaap
I'm not a cubase user but i think dave brown has got some free plugins. or
you can go to the digital sound page (see attachment for url) maybe there's
yout answer
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> From: Daniel Haenle <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: VST plugins
> Date: maandag 5 oktober 1998 11:24
>
I've got the orignal DB50XG manual which has all kinds of lists of data, but
it's not clear to me what particular numbers/addresses are relevant or if
the correct informatio is even in there. If you can give me some hints, I
might be able to help.
Otherwise, I could send you my complete collection of XG panels that I've
gathered and there might be something in one of them to help.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Schaap <[email protected]>
>> I'm looking for the following controller messages for the SW60XG.
>>
>> Midi controller or nrpn's for:
>>
>> Modulation speed
>> Modulation freq.
>> Modulation delay.
>> Decay (envelope)
>>
Hi all
I've posted some links to files on the DTM FTP in the past couple of days.
It seems that there is a problem on the server and it isn't allowing
anonymous access from some reason.
I can email any files that are needed desperately until it gets sorted.
Regards
--
Robert Ian Axford
[email protected]
--
Seems to be ok again now
fingers crossed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Ian Axford <[email protected]>
>I've posted some links to files on the DTM FTP in the past couple of days.
>It seems that there is a problem on the server and it isn't allowing
>anonymous access from some reason.
Since I have a sw60xg connected on the line input of my awe64g there's been
much more noise on my main output. I don't know if the "line-in" of the awe
or the "line-out" of my sw60xg is to blame. Anyway does anyone know a
solution??
I have read on the usenet that people say the SW60 is not as quiet as it
could be but I wouldn't expect it to make too much noise.
Make sure your Awe input levels are not set to anything higher than 1x in
the Creative mixer app.
Also, the general idea with I/O levels is to have the sending device at it's
highest level and the receiving device at it's lowest.
That means; set the output of the SW60 to maximum and then trim the input
level of the AWE to match your other devices.
this method reduces noise to a minimum.
Apart from that; how does the SW60 sound compared to the AWE when routed
straight to your Amp/speakers? if it's quieter then its the AWE's fault.
btw, those Phatboy panels are way cool.
I'm wondering if there's a simpler way to set Midi channels in Studioware
other than a knob or a slider. I always find those a bit fiddly to operate.
I see the ideal as a row of 16 ticks along the edge of a panel where you
simply click on the channel you want to use. What do you think?
-----Original Message-----
From: John Schaap <[email protected]>
>Since I have a sw60xg connected on the line input of my awe64g there's been
>much more noise on my main output. I don't know if the "line-in" of the awe
>or the "line-out" of my sw60xg is to blame. Anyway does anyone know a
>solution??
>
I want to buy a 17" monitor but i'm having one problem, it's depth. I would
like to run a resolution of 1024x768 (tired of scrolling up and down
Cakewalk's console view). At the moment i'm using a Yakumo 15" monitor
which can deal with this resolution but it's not as sharp when running
800x600. The specification of this monitor when using 1024x768 are:
res. :1024x768
color :16 high
H-freq. :48.3kHz
V-freq. :60Hz
1)
When buying a more expensive 15" monitor (about 400 USD (F800,-)) do i get
better quality. If so, is it then workable or isn't it worth spending this
kind of money because it's still all little thinny.
2)
What's better quality/price 15" or 17" for 400 USD (F800,-)
3)
If i do decide to make a hole in the wall and buy a 17" which one can you
reccomend. I was thinking about a Philips 107S. (it should be at the same
price level)
Maybe there are less depth versions (and i don't mean the lcd/tft monitors)
Thanks for your time,
John
On Monday, December 14, 1998 2:59 PM, John Schaap
[SMTP:[email protected]]
wrote:
> I want to buy a 17" monitor but i'm having one problem, it's depth. I
would
> like to run a resolution of 1024x768 (tired of scrolling up and down
> Cakewalk's console view). At the moment i'm using a Yakumo 15" monitor
> which can deal with this resolution but it's not as sharp when running
> 800x600. The specification of this monitor when using 1024x768 are:
>
> res. :1024x768
> color :16 high
> H-freq. :48.3kHz
> V-freq. :60Hz
>
> 1)
> When buying a more expensive 15" monitor (about 400 USD (F800,-)) do i
get
> better quality. If so, is it then workable or isn't it worth spending
this
> kind of money because it's still all little thinny.
>
> 2)
> What's better quality/price 15" or 17" for 400 USD (F800,-)
>
> 3)
> If i do decide to make a hole in the wall and buy a 17" which one can you
> reccomend. I was thinking about a Philips 107S. (it should be at the same
> price level)
> Maybe there are less depth versions (and i don't mean the lcd/tft
monitors)
>
> Thanks for your time,
> John
John,
I needed an inexpensive 17" to replace an aging 14" that I had been using
for years. I wound up buying a KDS VS7 for about $260.00US. It's not the
"best" monitor, but I run CWPA8.0 at 1280X1024 with no problem. It is
certainly better than what I had been using...
Bob Fowler
[email protected]
[email protected]
http://www.exit109.com/~fowlerr
I think that today it would be cheaper to skip 17 and go for 19 because the
prices already overlap and 19 is rapidly becoming mainstreem.
You wouldn't want to find yourself in the situation where you have to buy
another monitor soon, unless you can afford it.
That's precisely why I bought 19. I think I saved money doing that.
I have bought an ADI 6P. It is a 19 inch monitor. One of the cheapest but
still with very good text and graphics quality.
I had it side by side with a 19 inch Viewsonic and ADI was clearly better of
the two (I ran Nokia tests on them, you can download them from Nokia for
free)
It also had won many awards, especially in Europe.
At the time its price was maybe $600, but I saw recently that it costs now
$450. That is almost the same as your $400.
I also tested MAGInovision DJ800 19 inch monitor (and also under Yakumo
name). It is even cheaper (much cheaper) than ADI, but the picture quality
is unacceptible.
Do not buy it. Unless you test it thoroughly and still like it. Look if
everything appears fuzzy, even desktop icons, without any sharpness and
crispness.
Look if black letters on white background have bluish top/right shadows even
in the center of the screen.
The problem with these monitors is called "ghost image". I read about
these
monitors at zdnet, but then I saw myself. So it is not a question of a
single defective monitor.
If you like it, 19 inch MAG or identical Yakumo costs less than most 17 inch
monitors.
With 19 inch, I usually use resolution of 1280 x 1024 at 85Hz, when I need
to work with text, but for CakeWalk I use 1600 x 1200 - you wouldn't believe
what you can have on the
screen at once. It's 4 times more than 800 x 600.
And don't throw away your 15 inch Yakumo. With Windows 98 you can connect
both monitors at once. You need two video cards for that, but you will need
a better card for 19 inch
anyway. But the drivers of the cards must also support multi-mon. I will
test this thing with two monitors in a few days myself, so I can not say
anything more now. Imagine, if you could
have different Cakewalk windows on separate monitors simultaneously.
Raimundas Raciunas
-----Original Message-----
From: John Schaap <[email protected]>
To: Mailing DTM <[email protected]>;
Mailing AWE Jammers
<[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 9:59 PM
Subject: 15" or 17" monitor
>I want to buy a 17" monitor but i'm having one problem, it's depth. I would
>like to run a resolution of 1024x768 (tired of scrolling up and down
>Cakewalk's console view). At the moment i'm using a Yakumo 15" monitor
>which can deal with this resolution but it's not as sharp when running
>800x600. The specification of this monitor when using 1024x768 are:
>
>res. :1024x768
>color :16 high
>H-freq. :48.3kHz
>V-freq. :60Hz
>
>1)
>When buying a more expensive 15" monitor (about 400 USD (F800,-)) do i get
>better quality. If so, is it then workable or isn't it worth spending this
>kind of money because it's still all little thinny.
>
>2)
>What's better quality/price 15" or 17" for 400 USD (F800,-)
>
>3)
>If i do decide to make a hole in the wall and buy a 17" which one can you
>reccomend. I was thinking about a Philips 107S. (it should be at the same
>price level)
>Maybe there are less depth versions (and i don't mean the lcd/tft monitors)
>
>Thanks for your time,
>John
>
Hi there,
is there any difference between a Pitch Shifter and a Harmonizer?
Isn't Pitch Shifter just a new term?
Daniel
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Daniel Haenle
Digital Media Solution Center
IBM
phone: +49-7031-16-4432
e-mail: [email protected]
http://www.de.ibm.com/ide/solutions/dmsc
Hi Daniel
I always saw the harmonizer as the new term as it describes a more recent
variation of the pitch shifter.
The latter simply changes the pitch on a sound by a fixed amount whereas the
harmonizer will also fit the shifted voice to a musical scale. thus making
the second play in harmony to the original sound.
A pitch shifter will only play in perfect harmony when set to an octave up
or down. The harmonizer will play any interval and change the number of
semitones shifted to suit a preselected scale.
Pithc shifters have always been available even as analogue guitar stomp
boxes. The first Harmonizer I remember seeing was the Eventide and then the
Digitech in the late Eighties
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Haenle <[email protected]>
>is there any difference between a Pitch Shifter and a Harmonizer?
>Isn't Pitch Shifter just a new term?
>
Can I record paramater changes from XG Edit in cakewalk or do I have to
save the sysx first and open this in cakewalk.
ps any nice utilities for working with XG would be great. I only use XG
Edit. (maybe this is enough)
--
With kind regards / Met vriendelijke groet
John Schaap
At the moment i'm at the microsfot site finding directX 6.0 but there are
some many options. Can en1 tell me a straight address to download. I'm
using windows 95 dutch version and i'm having installed a directX 5.0 dutch
version at the moment.
btw. is it worth the download or should i stay with the 5.0 version
(everything works ok)
--
With kind regards / Met vriendelijke groet
John Schaap
There was a thingy by Ibanez in the early to mid 80's called a
"harmonizer"
if my memory doesn't fail me, the model was called 1000 something and was
for a long time regarded as the most price worthy around. I think it
basically shifted the pitch one octave +/-. I'd say harmonizers and pitch
shifters are the same thing. What you describe Robert is what some brands
call "intelligent pitch shifter", yet some manufacturers might stick with
"harmonizer".
I can't find any reason why to include the effect in a product such as
SBLive, especially as it isn't "intelligent". I'd prefer a rotary speaker
simulator or something. To change midi-music with a pitch shifter is plain
stupid, and wavs you can edit with programs like Soundforge.
/Martin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Ian Axford [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: den 22 oktober 1998 13:45
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Pitch Shifter and Harmonizer
>
>
> Hi Daniel
>
> I always saw the harmonizer as the new term as it describes a more recent
> variation of the pitch shifter.
>
> The latter simply changes the pitch on a sound by a fixed amount
> whereas the
> harmonizer will also fit the shifted voice to a musical scale. thus making
> the second play in harmony to the original sound.
>
> A pitch shifter will only play in perfect harmony when set to an octave up
> or down. The harmonizer will play any interval and change the number of
> semitones shifted to suit a preselected scale.
>
> Pithc shifters have always been available even as analogue guitar stomp
> boxes. The first Harmonizer I remember seeing was the Eventide
> and then the
> Digitech in the late Eighties
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Haenle <[email protected]>
>
> >is there any difference between a Pitch Shifter and a Harmonizer?
> >Isn't Pitch Shifter just a new term?
> >
>
>
Two different animals... a pitch shifter is a "dumb" device that
doesn't
take harmonic structure into consideration. If you tell it to shift up a
minor third, that's exactly what it does, regardless. A harmonizer
"listens" to the note played or sung, accepts chord information, usually via
midi, and then "knows" what harmony to play, based on whatever parameters
you've got programmed. A cheap stomp box pitch shifter will work for stuff
in octaves, but if you want to get serious, look into one of the Digitech
Vocalist units. I use the Digitech Vocalist II quite a bit. Lot's of fun
to play with!
My 2 cents
Bob Fowler
[email protected]
http://www.exit109.com/~fowlerr
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Haenle <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 4:32 AM
Subject: Pitch Shifter and Harmonizer
>
> Hi there,
>
>is there any difference between a Pitch Shifter and a Harmonizer?
>Isn't Pitch Shifter just a new term?
>
> Daniel
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Daniel Haenle
>Digital Media Solution Center
>IBM
>phone: +49-7031-16-4432
>e-mail: [email protected]
>http://www.de.ibm.com/ide/solutions/dmsc
>
I once wrote to Cakewalk regarding this and they didn't seem to understand
why I would want what I asked for.
I was asking them to allow for full sysex-thru in Cakewalk so that (as
Cubase has always done) you can hear sysex changes in real time as you make
and record them. This is important when using a synth control panel like
XGedit to edit your sounds as you obviously want to audition changes while
they're happening.
As it truns out, Cakewalk will record any sysex data it receives even if it
won't pass it thru to the Midi output immediately. You will hear the
changes on playback.
Parameter changes, as long as they're sent as sysex or Midi will be
recorded, but only Midi will be heard straight away.
As for patch changes within a track/channel, I normally insert them into the
Cakewalk events list. As long as you have defined your XG device as an XG
instrument in Cakewalk, you will get a complete list of patches in the list.
This lets you use a single channel for more than one instrument as long as
only one is being played at a time. The XG requires a small delay when
changing sounds so it is a good idea to place any changes a few ticks before
they're supposed to happen.
This may not be of any use if you're changing patches live while you record,
but it does at least let you set different patches for different sections
without having to record anything.
Hope this helps
-----Original Message-----
From: John Schaap <[email protected]>
>Can I record paramater changes from XG Edit in cakewalk or do I have to
>save the sysx first and open this in cakewalk.
>
>ps any nice utilities for working with XG would be great. I only use XG
>Edit. (maybe this is enough)
>--
>
> Check out http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/reports/index.htm
for
> comparison.
Man, let me kiss the feet of the guy who made this comparison! This URL is a
must-have.
Didn't expect the Live! values to be that good.
How much is the full version in the US? Haven't seen it in Germany yet (but
haven't really
looked either).
Can someone comment on the reverb quality? How about big rooms? Chorus is not
that
important to me.
Thanks!
Daniel
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Daniel Haenle
Digital Media Solution Center
IBM
phone: +49-7031-16-4432
e-mail: [email protected]
http://www.de.ibm.com/ide/solutions/dmsc
Seems to be the same people anyway. Remember that it was
originated by the off-topic mails in the AWE list.
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Daniel Haenle
Digital Media Solution Center
IBM
phone: +49-7031-16-4432
e-mail: [email protected]
http://www.de.ibm.com/ide/solutions/dmsc
[email protected]
on 10/22/98 09:35:44 PM
Please respond to [email protected]
To: [email protected]
cc:
Subject: RE: Pitch Shifter and Harmonizer
Oops! I sent this to the wrong mailinglist didn't I? It was intended for the
DTM, sorry!
/Martin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin S [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: den 22 oktober 1998 17:19
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Haenle [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 1998 11:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: SB Live! question
>Didn't expect the Live! values to be that good.
You may also want to check Robert's SBLive pages at the DTM site for his
view of the card.
.........
>Can someone comment on the reverb quality? How about big rooms? Chorus
is not
>that important to me.
I think that the reverb quality is excellent with a generous number of
parameters to tweak. I'm thinking about switching from DirectX reverbs
to SBLive. The weak point is that the FXs are applied globally (correct
me if I'm wrong anybody), so I plan to render my MIDI sequences track by
track.
Cheers :-)
/George
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Daniel Haenle
Digital Media Solution Center
IBM
phone: +49-7031-16-4432
e-mail: [email protected]
http://www.de.ibm.com/ide/solutions/dmsc
Reverb is such a subjective thing and I always found many good uses for the
Reverb of the AWE32. The Live has a completely different sounding set of
effects. I find them far richer and deeper with none of that "white noise"
type of whooshing sound that the Awe has.
The Live does have a fully tweakable reverb with a good set of parameters.
Most of the presets are either too deep or too goofy for Electronica so you
may have to make your own presets as I have had to. The Chorus has no
presets, but is again fully tweakable and quite rich. The Distortion is a
typical digital unit - not suitable for guitar, but perfectly fine for
synth, organ and drum sounds. The other effects are fun and Creative have
hinted there will be more of these in future.
As for that URL, it's good to see the guy finally got around to doing 48kHz
measurements as it improves the results to what they should be. On the
other hand, he does have problems with frequency response, which I can't
confirm. My card has a completely different curve to his, but in the end,
anything within 3db up to around 18-20khz is good enough for me and the Live
is better than that.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Haenle <[email protected]>
> Check out http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/reports/index.htm
for
> comparison.
Man, let me kiss the feet of the guy who made this comparison! This URL is a
must-have.
Didn't expect the Live! values to be that good.
How much is the full version in the US? Haven't seen it in Germany yet (but
haven't really
looked either).
Can someone comment on the reverb quality? How about big rooms? Chorus is
not
that
important to me.
Ian Wilson (he of Vintage Dreams fame) has released an FM waveform generator
which is avialable for free from his site. Free in this case means he wants
a copy of any cool patches you make with it.
Get it here:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/8645/fmdreams.html
This from the nfo:
This software allows you to render perfectly clear, noise-free digital
waveforms using 4-op FM synthesis. The program also uses PD synthesis to
create a huge palette of waveforms from which to choose. This makes it a lot
more powerful than other 4-op FM synths. In fact, in many instances this
4-op synthesis rivals the 6-op synthesis on the original Yamaha DX7 synth.
In some respects it even surpasses the 6-op synths too, since it has
literally thousands of different waveform shapes and combinations, and it is
100% noise-free.
Regards
--
Robert Ian Axford
[email protected]
--
-----Original Message-----
From: "Sedov, Georgy" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: SB Live! question
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:40:51 +0300
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>I think that the reverb quality is excellent with a >generous number of parameters
to tweak. I'm thinking about >switching from DirectX reverbs to SBLive. The weak point
>is that the FXs are applied globally (correct me if I'm >wrong anybody), so I plan
to render my MIDI sequences >track by track.
There seems to be some confusion about this. You CAN apply seperate FX to each midi track.
All you have to do is map the FX to a midi controller number in the EA panel. Let's say
distortion is mapped to CC 102 (don't forget to unmap reverb and chorus first) and flanger
is mapped to CC 103. Now just go into your sequencer and Controller number 102 can be
applied seperately to each channel. Try it, it works!
Dear Robert, many apologies for sending that rubbish about
appraisal
forms and stuff. Your DTM address was selected in error.
Please
trash the message.
Very sorry.
Dave
heh heh not a problem Dave
this must be the first time I ever received an apology for spam :)
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>
> Dear Robert, many apologies for sending that rubbish about
appraisal
> forms and stuff. Your DTM address was selected in
error. Please
> trash the message.
>
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